hey @audreywatters - you appear to be on pg.84 of Walkaway https://arstechnica.com/the-multiverse/2017/04/cory-doctorows-walkaway-hardware-hackers-face-the-climate-apocalypse/ ".. she called him on every crumb of bullshit, found crashed projects where gamification had run wild, so financialized that every incentive distorted into titanic frauds that literally left structures in ruins, rotten to the mortar. They were existence proof of the terribleness of his cherished ideas. She pointed out that getting humans to 'do the right thing' by incentivizing them to vanquish one another was stupid. She found videos of Skinner-trained pigeons who'd been taught to play piano through food-pellet training and pointed out that everyone who liked this envisioned himself as the experimenter -- not the pigeon."
https://www.wired.com/beyond-the-beyond/2017/06/various-sci-fi-projects-allegedly-creating-better-future/ 'The “better future” thing is jam-tomorrow and jam-yesterday talk, so it tends to become the enemy of jam today. You’re better off reading history, and realizing that public aspirations that do seem great, and that even meet with tremendous innovative success, can change the tenor of society and easily become curses a generation later. Not because they were ever bad ideas or bad things to aspire to or do, but because that’s the nature of historical causality. Tomorrow composts today.'